Ask Matt: Emmy Reactions (‘Good Place,’ ‘SNL,’ ‘Fosse/Verdon’), Snubbing Broadcast TV, ‘Last Man’ Update
Welcome to the Q&A with TV critic (also known to some TV fans as their “TV therapist”) Matt Roush, who’ll try to address whatever you love, loathe, are confused or frustrated or thrilled by in today’s vast TV landscape. One caution: This is a spoiler-free zone, so we won’t be addressing upcoming storylines here unless it’s already common knowledge. Please send your questions and comments to [email protected] (or use the form at the end of the column) and follow me on Twitter. Look for Ask Matt columns on most Tuesdays and Fridays.
[Editor’s note: As you’d expect, the mailbag was dominated by early reactions to Tuesday’s announcement of this year’s Emmy nominations, so much of today’s column will be devoted to that.]
Dammit, Janet, We Love You!
Question: She was robbed! The fact that D’Arcy Carden did not get nominated for a Supporting Comedy Actress Emmy for the “Janet(s)” episode of The Good Place is an absolute crime. Add to that that this particular show took a year to shoot and that she not only played all the characters in the series, but even one of the characters playing another one of the characters (it makes your head spin just thinking about it!) is just more evidence that the TV Academy isn’t paying attention. At least that episode was nominated for writing, but it wouldn’t have worked without Carden’s abilities, and she deserved not only the nomination, but the statue as well. Janet, who knows everything in the universe, would certainly agree! — Aaron F
Matt Roush: And who am I to argue? I imagine the organizers of the Emmy nominations announcement earlier this week were also surprised, as they chose D’Arcy Carden to be one of the two presenters—and it’s often a nice moment when one of them gets a nod. (But the Outstanding Comedy and Writing nominations are hardly small potatoes, and bravo to Ted Danson and Maya “the Judge” Rudolph in the guest category.) There’s no question Carden gave a virtuoso performance in that episode, and is a delight in all of the others. But the supporting category is so crowded this year that eight nominees qualified (suggesting very close voting), and with multiple nominees from Fleabag and The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, plus a first-time nod for Barry’s Sarah Goldberg and one last chance for Veep’s Anna Chlumsky, there was even only one slot for a Saturday Night Live performer this year (the inimitable Kate McKinnon). A few of the choices are a bit suspect—and may have more to do with name recognition or the notoriety of a particular program than the actual performance—but what it often boils down to is that I imagine many of the voting members just didn’t see this brilliant episode. Which is a shame, and an unfortunate blind spot.
Why SNL Players Compete Against Comedy Series Stars
Question: After seeing this year’s Emmy nominations, I have a question about how the category for a show is determined. I don’t usually follow things like the Emmys that closely. So maybe this question is more common knowledge for some. But I saw that Kate McKinnon was nominated for supporting actress in a comedy for Saturday Night Live. But Saturday Night Live doesn’t seem like it should be in the same category as traditional scripted comedies. Saturday Night Live itself is nominated in the variety-sketch series category. So how is it that the cast members of Saturday Night Live can be nominated in the comedy category when the show itself is considered a sketch variety show? It seems like an actress in a traditional scripted comedy should have had Kate McKinnon’s spot in the supporting actress in a comedy category, not that her work on SNL isn’t great. Is it just that there is not a category for individual actors and actresses for sketch variety shows and so those actors get considered in the closest related category? If I had my way, I’d have nominated D’Arcy Carden from The Good Place instead. On a side note, I’m happy to see Mandy Moore get some recognition for her work on This Is Us! — Beth
Matt Roush: This issue comes up frequently, and it probably bears repeating. There once was an Emmy category designated for Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Series, but it was retired in 2008. And while Saturday Night Live performers (including Tina Fey, Will Ferrell, Mike Myers, Phil Hartman and Molly Shannon) were frequently nominated, the category was a mishmash of a grab-bag that included awards-show hosts and musical performers in concert specials, and the last time an SNL player won in that category was Dana Carvey back in 1993.
Since the category was dropped, SNL players are often considered in the supporting category, and while it’s obviously apples and oranges when choosing between someone who excels in live sketch comedy and someone who plays an ongoing character in an episodic series, I’m OK with acknowledging great talent who are part of a regular comedy ensemble. This year, Kate McKinnon is the only SNL regular nominated, which is a much quieter showing than usual. Last year, Alec Baldwin (who won before), Kenan Thompson, Aidy Bryant, Leslie Jones and McKinnon (who has won twice in the category) were in the running. (But as usual, SNL cleans up in the guest actor/actress categories, with six guest nominees: Matt Damon, Robert De Niro, John Mulaney, Adam Sandler, Sandra Oh and Emma Thompson).
Who Will Win Doesn’t Always Mean They Should
Question: Why did you change your mind in your most recent Emmy analysis about who you want to win for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Limited Series, choosing Patricia Arquette for Escape at Dannemora over Michelle Williams for Fosse/Verdon? Why aren’t you rooting for Michelle anymore? And why do you want Mahershala Ali to win for Outstanding Actor for Limited Series for True Detective when that limited series has been terrible after the show’s first season? — Chris B
Matt Roush: Let’s make a distinction between predictions and preferences. When it gets closer to Emmy time, I’ll write my usual who will/who should win analysis, separating my predictions about who is most likely to win from who I would prefer to win. (Sometimes they’re the same, but not always.) I’m still wavering in my thoughts about Patricia Arquette vs. Michelle Williams, a very tough call—and Amy Adams in Sharp Objects is no slouch, either. Right now, it seems to me that the remarkable transformation Arquette made to play that dowdy, unhappy, restless collaborator in the prison break feels like classic awards bait—though the same can be said for Williams’ transcendent work, reclaiming the legend of Gwen Verdon, which to me (but perhaps not to Emmy voters) was the TV performance of the year. Again, it’s an impossible choice.
As for Mahershala Ali and True Detective: I felt the third season was a return to form after a terrible second round, and even if we agree to disagree on that, the performance of double Oscar winner Ali was undeniably terrific, playing a complex character over multiple time frames. That again feels like the kind of showy work that is a slam-dunk at awards time, though the competition is very stiff, and I were casting my own vote, I’d go for Jharrel Jerome, who was so heartbreaking as a young man trapped in the legal system in Netflix’s When They See Us.
Should Network TV Get Its Own Emmys?
Question: In your recent wish list for Emmy Nominations, out of around 50 different mentions, only 3 were for broadcast network shows: The Big Bang Theory, The Good Doctor and Freddie Highmore. And you repeatedly stated that deserving network shows and performers were likely to be shut out by cable/streaming competitors. So explain again why there isn’t a need for two separate awards shows: one for the basic networks, and one for cable shows/streaming services. — Maurice
Matt Roush: Sorry, not budging. (And I’m pretty sure this is becoming an annual argument.) Playing devil’s advocate, what would you call the awards show for broadcast shows only: The Also-Rans? The Consolation Emmys? Wby don’t they deserve to compete with the very best on other platforms? To me, it makes a statement when the precious few shows and stars (and writers, directors, designers, etc.) from broadcast shows make the cut that somehow they’ve bucked the odds to get the attention of the TV Academy. I agree that it isn’t fair that some very good work on network TV is getting overlooked, but in the bigger picture, the solution to this paradox is for the networks to tell bolder, riskier stories. Even then, it might not matter to an industry whose members seem to gravitate toward premium cable and streaming. But a show like This Is Us is evidence that if a network series touches a chord in the culture, breaking through the insane clutter that is now the TV landscape, Emmy nominations (and even a win now and then) may follow.
Clarifying Last Man’s Standing
Question: I am very confused about your recent remark when you said you did not know when Last Man Standing would return for Season 8. Fox confirmed weeks ago it would be on Thursday nights at 8/7c next year after the football season. The stars of the show tweeted about it. Please correct this information because many people are very confused. Some think the show is canceled again. I also know they begin taping the show next Month on August 13th. — Lori
Matt Roush: I stand (so to speak) corrected. And newly informed. To be fair, unless I missed it, Fox has not issued a specific release about its midseason plans and it hasn’t been reported in the entertainment trades. (Fan sites are likely another matter.) I apparently missed the tweets from the stars, which for me is not an uncommon occurrence. But late or not to the party, this midseason scheduling makes perfect sense. With Fridays no longer available on Fox, Thursdays after football is probably the best place for the network to attempt a comedy block (albeit competing with sitcoms on CBS and NBC on the same night). And the bottom line is to reinforce the fact that while Last Man Standing will be MIA in the fall, it most definitely is not canceled.
Lightning Round
Question: Will there be another Endeavour series? — Berlee
Matt Roush: Happily, yes. The Inspector Morse prequel (which airs on PBS as part of Masterpiece Mystery!) was renewed for a seventh season, which reportedly will move forward in time to 1970.
Question: Why did they cancel The Enemy Within? It is one of the best dramas on TV this year. Do you think USA or Fox might pick it up and continue it? — Linda
Matt Roush: The “why,” as usual, is a matter of ratings. The series didn’t hold the Voice audience that has launched other dramas more successfully, and for a serialized thriller, not growing week to week is pretty much a death knell. It’s very unlikely it will emerge elsewhere. USA would be the most likely candidate, as it’s part of the NBC-Universal family and the show came from their studio. (And as we’ve seen with A.P. Bio, which was just rescued from cancellation for NBC-Universal’s upcoming streaming service, sometimes dead isn’t always dead.) But even that seems a very long shot.
That’s all for now—and be aware that for much of the rest of the summer, this column will post less regularly. Thanks as always for reading, and remember that I can’t do this without your participation, so please keep sending questions and comments about TV to [email protected] or shoot me a line on Twitter (@TVGMMattRoush), and you can also submit questions via the handy form below. Please include a first name with your question.
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I disagree with you about one award show for both over-the-air network programs and cable/streaming programs.
There should be two award shows, primarily because due to the rising cost of cable and the streaming programs that use to be on one service is slowly being divided into many services. I am being nickel and dime to the point where the costs are rising faster than my social security check.
I have dropped many premium cable stations and went to basic service and now considering no cable at all and no streaming services because I will be going to a slower internet speed. I dread the beginning of each fiscal year when the streamers sends out their notice of a cost increase.
A single streaming service that provided the channels I watch became two which became five with each being $4 to $6 a month with no end in sight, however, I saw that Netflix lost shares after their last rate hike which gives me hope that there is an cap to rates. That still doesn't put an end to one service being split into many others.
At some point the consumer pocketbook will reach a breaking point and I, as well as some of my senior friends, have reached mine.
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But what does that have to do with devaluing network programs by giving them a “special” emmys award show?
If they can’t compete, then they need to improve their game. Not create a peewee league where they can get by and be rewarded for producing drivel.
They are all owned (with the exception of Fox) by big companies that are also entering the steaming game. Demand better from them, don’t accept their scraps.
It seems likely that things will be very different in 5 to 10 years though. Who knows if they will even have broadcast networks in the future. All the money may be in streaming.
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The problem with network programs versus cable is adult content. The networks have to content with the FCC while the cables don't.
If the networks broadcast something that the family friendly watchdogs don't like they rally their membership and a thousand people will send a hundred emails each to the FCC complaining that an actress was showing too much cleavage and removing an evening dress on a drama when they won't say a word if the same actress appears on a reality show wearing a bikini.
Networks have to show young adult story lines while which is meant for teens under the age of sixteen to avoid the ire of those who are still living in the age of I Love Lucy, The Brady Bunch and The Partridge Family.
I remember when Farrah Fawcett created an uproar when she appeared in an episode of Charlie's Angels without a bra in a tight fitting shirt.
There were many TV stations that refused to air NYPD Blue because they went adult and showed bare buttocks, until the rating for Blue soared and many of the stations who at first refused relented. I also remember when the topless bathing suit first came out and the same stations that refused to air Blue aired footage of swimsuit models wearing the topless bathing suits and covering up by holding an arm across the bare breasts but not pressing the arm against the body.
You say that the networks shouldn't create a peewee league because the networks has to step up and stop producing drivel but if and when they do they face fines from the FCC or lawsuits from watchdog groups for violating arbitrary censorship rules.
The networks do produce good programs. Take The Good Fight for example. It first aired on the CBS streaming service but when the episodes aired the on network it had to be bleeped and edited for content. Did it change the story line? No. Did it change the overall feel of the show? Yes.
Networks can't compete with cable until they are showing programs on a level playing field.
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So the only way to make great, quality, content that can compete with cable is to make it adult oriented with lots of swear words and nudity? The networks should give up and not even try?
I 100% disagree. Stranger Things season 3 was high quality, great fun to watch, captivated the culture and was better than 90% of stuff on cable and streaming platforms, and has zero nudity and a severe lack of foul language.
With the exception of its ending Lost was another one. But it was on in an era when the networks still tried. Now they are just milking broadcast for whatever they can get out of it before it dies.
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No, a program doesn't need nudity or swearing to make it good. Examples would be St. Elsewhere, LA Law, ER, The
Good Wife, Law and Order and as you mentioned, Lost.
However as you compare those shows to the programs they call dramas that are now on the writing is sophomoric and the subject matter/story line is juvenile.
The network programs are good in their own right but they can't compare to the grittiness of cable.
Network television has grown up over the years. When you watch retro Westerns or police shows they use to show someone getting shot with a few drops of blood where the bullet hit. Now there is a pink mist showing where the bullet entered and left the body and the corpse is shown lying in a pool of blood.
In the days of yore when the police were showing photos of a corpse for identification purposes they would first issue a caution saying the photo they were about to see is a photo of a dead person. And the police never showed the photo to the camera nor would they reveal the corpse to the camera when someone was at the morgue identifying the body. Today they open up the refrigerator and show pale corpse bullet wounds and all.
Network television has grown up but hasn't reached adulthood yet.
Allowing awards shows to put network and cable programs on the footing is like putting Dragnet and SWAT in competition for the same award. Both are police dramas Or MASH and ER. Both are medical shows and both deal with gunshot victims. And both have won awards.
The genre may be the same but they don't compare. One I have no problem with a six year old watching, the other not so much. Same with network versus cable. I would monitor the watching habits if the child had access to premium cable channels and not be as concerned with network programs.
Overall both network and cable have good programs each in their own right. But it is a disservice to compare them side-by-side.
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