Ask Matt: What’s With the Mediocre ‘Station 19’-‘Grey’s Anatomy’ Crossovers?

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Welcome to the Q&A with TV critic—also known to some TV fans as their “TV therapist”—Matt Roush, who’ll try to address whatever you love, loathe, are confused or frustrated or thrilled by in today’s vast TV landscape. (We know background music is too loud, but there’s always closed-captioning.)

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Comment: I’ve been a loyal Grey’s Anatomy fan since the pilot. I never claimed the show “jumped the shark” when someone was written off. (Though I did hate the way they handled writing off Alex.) But last week’s episode was the final straw for me. I’ve seen articles pointing to the show’s depressing embracing of the pandemic as causing a rating slide. I don’t think it’s COVID that’s killing the show. It’s everything else. I could handle Meredith struggling with COVID, but I’m sick of her dream scenes. The preview for next week confirms that’s still going to continue. Back in “the real world,“ it was unnecessarily depressing to simultaneously kill off both Andrew and a woman who never got to hold her baby. Yet I would continue watching if it wasn’t for the continuing mess of the crossovers.

I’m not interested in watching Station 19. I’m assuming there’s a large segment of viewers who feel the same way. Otherwise, they wouldn’t keep trying to ram the show down our throats. I had to read a recap of what happened on S19 before watching Grey’s. Something in the way it was handled left me cold. My eyes were very dry when Andrew died. It’s a shame because I like the actor and used to care about the character. On the other hand, maybe that also means that the writing or directing has deteriorated. I just don’t find myself caring about many of the scenes. If I learn in the future that the crossovers have ended, I might give Grey’s another shot. But for now, the fact that each episode starts off making me feel like I needed to watch another show leaves me too frustrated and resentful. — Beth (OD’d on Crossovers)

Matt Roush: What an interesting reason to break up with TV’s longest-running medical drama. Sounds like you also have a bad case of Grey’s fatigue, and I tend to agree that watching Meredith spend a whole season in some J. Crew Malibu limbo is seriously testing our patience, even when it’s fun to see faces like Patrick Dempsey’s again. But seriously, the crossovers! I’m with you that forcing viewers to watch a lesser spinoff to get the gist of what’s happening on the mothership is bad form. At least when the Chicago shows on NBC do it, they promote it as an event, whereas ABC is purposefully yoking Station 19 and Grey’s as often as they can. It was especially glaring this time, because much of Station 19 set up DeLuca’s heroic but ill-fated pursuit of the sex traffickers that led to his mortal injury. Stretching this out over two hours might also have blunted its emotional impact, because this isn’t the only viewer who wrote in to say they were left cold by the latest Grey’s tragedy. On the plus side, after such a downbeat comeback from hiatus, I’m even more convinced they’ll renew the show for at least one more year so it doesn’t end under the cloud of COVID.

Grey’s Still Commands the Watercooler

Question: When Alex Karev was written out last year, you posted my comments about Grey’s Anatomy giving male characters unhappier endings than their female counterparts. I revisit the topic with the show’s latest casualty. One headline stated only five main characters have died and I looked into that. The series has written off 18 actors listed in the opening credits (8 men, 10 women). Andrew DeLuca joins Derek Shepherd, Mark Sloan, Lexie Grey, and George O’Malley as the five (4 men, 1 woman) to die. Updating what I wrote last time, their endings were guided by what best serves storylines, but it continues to be an interesting statistic. The series still attracts viewers while the characters and their story arcs still spark discussion. With so many choices and time-shifted watching, how many other shows still compel ASAP-type viewing and next-day watercooler conversations, especially 17 seasons in? — Angelo

Matt Roush: I appreciate this approach. While I may be critical about some of the show’s choices this season (and certainly in the past), it is astounding that so many people still care. It’s a testament to the potent appeal of long-running episodic weekly TV, which is worth remembering when we’re all being distracted by the latest shiny new streaming object.

Where Did That New Blood Relative Go?

Question: Is the newly found Grandson Joe ever coming back on Blue Bloods? They introduced the character, then he’s gone. Is he coming back? — JB

Matt Roush: Joe (played by Will Hochman) is what’s considered a “recurring” character, not at this time part of the regular cast, and you’ll likely see him when an appropriate storyline dictates his return. Our reporter who covers the show tells me that Tom Selleck and the producers were impressed by Hochman, who was committed to another project after filming his initial arc. They’d like to have him back, though it may not be possible this season.

Not So Happy News

Question: Does Christopher Meloni going back to the Wolfverse (Law & Order: Organized Crime) mean we’ve seen the end of Syfy’s Happy? It was the most depraved and demented show I’ve ever seen, much less on basic cable, and I loved every minute of it (which probably says more about me than is necessary). After destroying Christmas and Easter, just imagine what they could do to Halloween! Or Mother’s Day, for that matter. With Meloni and Patton Oswalt (A.P. Bio) both in the Peacock’s nest, I’m hoping corporate synergy works in the viewers’ favor for once. — Woody

Matt Roush: Sorry to pass on the unhappy news that Happy! was not renewed beyond the second season. It would have been unlikely to continue anyway once Meloni committed to reprising his Elliot Stabler character as lead of the new spinoff. But boy, did he let his freak flag fly in that show.

The Revolving Door of NCIS Spinoffs

Question: Disappointing to hear of the end of NCIS: New Orleans. It remains my favorite. I suspect too many cast changes did not help. Any chance it will migrate to another network? — Gary J

Matt Roush: The NCIS franchise is made by and for CBS. These aren’t the sort of shows that get snapped up by rivals. Maybe if there was interest in producing more episodes for streaming on Paramount+, that would be the only lifeline. But as we’ve explained earlier in this space, CBS is known for jettisoning its crime dramas after a certain number of years (often seven) to keep refreshing the lineup. Speaking of which …

Question: With the rumored new NCIS: Hawaii spinoff, any chance David James Elliott would be cast? They kind of teased the possibility during the Season 11 episode when he and Catherine Bell repurposed their JAG characters. — Matt

Matt Roush: There’s always a chance. I won’t know what they’ve got in store for the Hawaii-based spinoff until they announce that it’s going forward (or not). It seems more likely to me that if they bring back Harm and Mac, it would be a for a JAG reboot to take advantage of the residual affection for the show that started it all. But anything’s possible, and having an established star at the helm would give it an immediate boost.

And Finally …

Question: We enjoy the new Craig Ferguson show The Hustler, but notice it is no longer on. Are they on hiatus or has it been canceled? (We hope it hasn’t been cancelled.) — Polly O

Matt Roush: All of the ABC game shows that were airing on Thursdays this winter — the celebrity Wheel of Fortune, The Chase and The Hustler‑have wrapped their seasons, making way for the return from hiatus last week of the regularly scheduled scripted shows. It may be too soon to know if any of these will return, where or when, but ABC obviously likes to lean on this genre to fill holes on the schedule, so I’d think at least a few of these may still have life in them. Although if the industry gets back to full speed when the pandemic wanes, ABC may not have quite as many holes to fill.

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    GreenCarrot

    I think less is more when it comes to crossovers. One Chicago started out doing a lot of crossovers when they launched Chicago P.D. in 2014. P.D's second season had three crossovers, two with Fire/SVU/PD and one with Fire/P.D. By the time Chicago Med premiered a year-and-a-half later, they had started cutting back to one major crossover event a season, followed by a smaller crossover with Fire/P.D. later in the season. Med's only involved in the three-way crossover events, so it's only been in three crossovers over six seasons. That's the current format - huge Fire/Med/P.D. crossover event at the start of the season; Fire/P.D. smaller crossover at the end of the season. It works well.

    I stopped watching Arrow after season one, but they kind of did the same thing when it was on the air (still do, I presume). They would have a massive crossover event across all shows, sprinkled with smaller crossovers involving only two shows or something somewhere else in the season.

    I haven't watched GA since season one, and I was never interested in S19, since I watch One Chicago. But, it does seem like S19 is relying too much on GA. One big crossover a season is enough, followed by maybe a mini crossover later in the season. You don't need them in every episode or every other week.

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    GoldAnchor

    S19 is viewed almost as much as GA so people like it and it doesn't crossover just to keep it alive. Btw DeLuca's was the first major crossover, 1 episode out of 59, and it made sense with the plot because Carina is a regular on S19 and that crossover was their last journey. I know it sucks if you don't have the time or you just don't care about seeing the other show, but that storyline needed 80 minutes anyway.

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    GoldAnchor

    DeLuca's is the first major crossover and if you don't care about him or GA you don't even need to watch it. What happened to him was very clear on S19 next episode with Carina reaction.

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    GoldAnchor

    there's no GREY's anatomy whitout Meredith GREY (unfortunately imho, can't stand her anymore, MerLuca was crap, just give her some decent lightheart storyline with the new pediatrician or just leave her alone and give her some antidepressants)

    Ps S19 is viewed almost as much as GA so people like it and DeLuca's is the first major crossover you actually need to watch to understand what's going on (others like Joe's bar are minor) and it made actual sense with the plot because you know Carina is a regular on S19 and the two episodes were about them, a brother and a sister last journey.

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    GoldFlame

    David James Elliott and Catherine Bell would be ideal for NCIS, Harm as an Agent or Assistant Director and Mac as the JAG liaison or staff Judge Advocate for the Pacific, heck, Mac would be perfect to replace Hetty on LA with Harm becoming LA's legal advisor or liaison to avoid the recurring characters from D.C. who "investigate" the team or are a nuisance, Rogers, the FBI folks, the DOJ crew, the new group from that Russian probe. Captain Roberts could also fill the Staff Judge Advocate role or become Gibbs and Vance's legal advisor to reduce issues in the original's office. Maybe we'll see some Five-0 characters move over? Junior Reigns as the team's probie following the tragic death of his new bride Tani, and maybe Sabastian from New Orleans as a Senior Agent? Maybe Noelani from Five-0 as the Medical Examiner? CBS, ABC, NBC, and even FOX has a history of a 50-50 cast, where the cast is evenly split immediately or the second season, no later than the third season, of experienced cast members, and usually at least one is a cast member who is a first time supporting role. LA did it, the original did it, even the Wolf-universe of show (Law & Order and Chicago) and Grey Anatomy (Katherine Heigl was in Under Siege 2 and a few others before she landed them for a few years), ER, M*A*S*H, Pensacola Wings of Gold, Battlestar Galactica (the Original and the Reimagined with Grace Park), Knight Rider (the NBC one season reboot/spinoff with the transforming K.I.T.T.) and others.

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    OrangeBus

    I am of the same opinion. Don't like the crossover between GA and S19. Am a fan of S19 and stopped watching GA yrs ago when Izzy(?) kept seeing her dead lover. I don't want to have to watch a programme in which I am no longer interested to find out the outcome of the situation from the previous show I.e. Station 19

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    GoldTrumpet

    I personally hate the crossover for Grey’s and Station 19. I love grey’s but I am not interested in Station 19. They have these crossover events so Station 19 gets views to keep the show alive while only offering a total of about 5 minutes of Grey’s skits. It makes me feel like I have to watch station 19 so I’m not missing out on any key pieces for the episode I truly want to watch. I didn’t watch the crossover for the newest episode so I completely missed everything that led up to Deluca and that’s annoying. I feel as though the crossovers need to end so grey’s fans can get back to watching what they want to watch and not what we are forced to for a sorry ass 5 minute projection of what’s going to happen when the episode starts. #cancelthecrossover

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    GreenBowtie

    I found the GA&S10 crossovers very disrespectful to GS fans. I wanna watch the show without the need to do research before hand. I rather stop watching. Also, Ellen P. is earnings a lot of money from doing nothing. Her character can go, so little I care for her, but made a decision. So many others interesting characters to follow. And more important, Covid is terrible and people suffer a lot, not only the people on the ICU but the families. The dream format is tiresome and the point is totally lost in the middle of the no sense.

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