‘Anne With an E’ Star Cory Gruter-Andrew on Cole’s Journey & LGBT Representation
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The first time Cole Mackenzie (Cory Gruter-Andrew) shows up in Anne With An E‘s second season, he’s drawing in his sketchbook, sitting alone while the other kids play catch and talk.
It’s a fitting introduction for the art-loving loner whom the titular character eventually befriends. Throughout Season 2 of the Netflix drama, adapted from the Anne of Green Gables books, drawing (and eventually, sculpting) is Cole’s driving passion. It connects him with several kindred spirits and drives him out of his “shell,” eventually leading him to the person in which he confides his deepest secret — he’s gay.
Coming of age is hard enough in today’s world, but Cole faced a unique set of challenges in turn of the century Avonlea as a result of both his sexual orientation and his love for art.
TV Insider spoke with 16-year-old Gruter-Andrew about Cole’s fan-favorite status and emotional journey of self-discovery, his character’s passion for pen and paper, and his future on the Netflix drama.
How does it feel to play a character with whom so many identify, someone who represents the LGBT community?
Cory Gruter-Andrew: You know, it’s really wonderful because there’s a lot of people in this day and age who are relating to a character who was portrayed 100 years ago. That’s really interesting, to see the challenges people are facing today were faced 100 years ago, except in secret, because [homosexuality] was a crime.
It’s really nice to see all the responses on social media, people saying, ‘I can relate to Cole in so many ways.’ It’s nice because a lot of people are struggling with who they are, and that’s part of Cole’s story. Cole’s figuring out who he is, as well. It’s just really wonderful to see everyone relating to Cole, and it’s really nice that people are finding inspiration in him.

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Those scenes were lovely — especially the one where he was talking to Aunt Josephine and said he’s like her and Gertrude.
Those were some of my favorite scenes to shoot. She’s such a wonderful lady. It was after the whole soiree, the flowers were still up and that was really cool. But shooting that scene was really heartwarming… it was like it was really happening. It was a really interesting scene to shoot, the ‘coming out’ scene. There were a lot of feelings inside that were mixing together, and it was weird – but a good weird!
Did you know from the beginning that that was an aspect of Cole’s character, that he was gay? Or did you find out when you read that script?
In the character description, it did say that he was an LGBT+ character. I didn’t know if he was trans, if he was bisexual… I was kind of figuring out who Cole was as I got more scripts.
For sure. I know Cole isn’t in the Anne of Green Gables books, but did you read any of the books before you started filming?
I actually have not. In my childhood, I never had the opportunity. I should definitely go read them, though! I know that I gave the first Anne of Green Gables book to my cousin as a Christmas present, but I haven’t read it myself! [Laughs] I should probably do that.
Since Cole isn’t in the books, what sort of inspiration did you take for his character? Did you have to do some research?
I really just looked to Cole for his own inspiration. Cole is his own person, and he has such an interesting storyline that it’s hard to find people within that timeline that he can relate to, but Aunt Josephine is one of them. I talked to [actress Deborah Grover] about what it’s like to play a gay character, and we had a conversation about that, and that was nice. But I mainly just looked to Cole to be his own person.
What was it like to film those drawing and sculpting scenes? Are you an artist?
I cannot draw to save my life. [Laughs] To be perfectly honest with you, I am not an artist. Cole is definitely the artsy one, and it was really cool because I got to be playing with clay and stuff. My hands got a bit dirty, obviously, but it was fun. It was just like a little art class.
What was it like filming on a set that re-created the turn of the century?
It was really cool. You didn’t see too many light bulbs, for one, and the horse and buggy was a new one for me! It really immersed you in the turn of the century a hundred years ago, but then you turn to your left and see someone holding a mic and go, ‘OK, it’s real-life.’
Can you talk a little bit about the scenes you filmed with Amybeth McNulty (Anne), especially the scene where Cole says he wishes he was ordinary and she says he’s unique?
It was tough. Cole, in that moment, isn’t feeling good about himself at all. He wants the world not to recognize him. He wants to be as small as possible, and he meets Anne and Anne kind of comes along and — especially in this scene — gets Cole to open up and come out of his shell. That was really a big moment.
Those scenes at the end of the season, where he makes the decision to go live with Aunt Josephine — I cried, when I saw them.
I cried reading them! I was very sad.
What about Cole’s progression throughout the season? Because we see him, as you said, trying to make the world not recognize him. But at the end of the season, he’s making this big choice for himself.
So Cole, in the beginning of the season, is just kind of drawing for fun… he doesn’t have too many friends, he’s kind of an outsider, and he doesn’t want to be known. Then he meets Anne, and Anne is such a vibrant person — he sees inspiration in Anne, and who she is, and pulls from that. And after he breaks his arm he thinks he’s lost everything, but he’s really just diverted his path. Progressing who he is, meeting Aunt Josephine; just the whole season he’s uncovering so many new things about himself. And putting that on-screen was a challenge, but it was a really fun challenge.

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Is there any chance that Cole might come back, even though he’s not living in Avonlea anymore?
I am not sure. That’s completely up to the writers, and that’s their decision. But I’m sure it’d be interesting to see, and people are liking Cole. That’d be a fun thing to see next season, I think.
When he does make that decision to leave and go live with Aunt Josephine, what do you think drives him to make that choice?
Visiting Aunt Josephine, he found someone he really connects with. At home on the farm, that’s not Cole. That’s not what he wants to do with the rest of his life. What Cole wants to do — he wants to be an artist, and he wants to express himself that way. And he found this group of people, with Aunt Josephine, who love art just as much as he does and that he can truly be comfortable around with who he is. Whereas back on the farm in Avonlea, he’s shunned for being who he is, he’s made fun of, even. I think he realized in that moment that the better environment for him is in Charlottetown, with Aunt Josephine.
And by the season’s end, do you think Cole has fully embraced his individuality and uniqueness?
You know, I think he’s getting there… he will forever grow as a person. And he’s still figuring out who he is — he’s still figuring out the details, if you will. He realizes that his art is a part of him and he doesn’t have to hide that, and with Aunt Josephine… legally, [if he lived anywhere else] he’d have to hide the fact that he’s queer or he could be jailed or killed. It wasn’t the right thing, but sadly, it happened. I think he’s getting there, but he can’t share [his sexual orientation] with the public.
What was your favorite moment for Cole’s character?
The moment where Josephine is in the hallway and she’s weeping, thinking about Gertrude, and along comes Cole! He’s looking for some space because he’s an introverted guy, and then he comes across Aunt Josephine and they have this wonderful little waltz. It was such a heartwarming scene to shoot. It was wonderful.
Anne With an “E”, Season 2, Streaming Now, Netflix
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Why are people hating on this? The writer said that it was just taking a hint of inspiration from the book! It doesn’t sugar coat anything like in the 1980 mini series. It’s quite real and a great representation for that time period.
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YES! i love anne with an e and even though it feels slightly out of place for the time, i think its because we forget that 'gay' existed in that time. Itotally agree with u!!
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This thread is now locked. 😐
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I feel the same as you LucySmooch. This got to be awful. We're done with it. These people can't keep this garbage out of our face, well we don't have to watch it. Bye bye Anne.
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Let me guess, you're homophobic.
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Pretty sure I won't be watching this "remake." The fact that they totally changed characters of the original show (which was was better in so many aspects) is plain idiotic and just more liberal agenda and ruing of perfectly good shows. I agree with both comments below- why they have to put this garbage on is beyond me.
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Liberal agenda? Why do you have to bring up politics? This is just a TV show, and remakes do have many differences from the originals, it's nothing new.
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That’s not creative ,incense. This TV writer changed the entire thing. That’s writing HER OWN STORY but using someonelse’s premise.
It’s not about whether or not there were gay people back then. It’s about there were not any in the book and that is NOT what the author wrote or intended. Someone else, with permission from someone besides the author ( she’s dead), HIJAcked the story.
It’s nothing new. True, but you’re kidding yourself if you think there is no agenda. This TV writer is so unoriginal now, if that was her goal. Everyone sends a gay messsage to the youth these days. Read any Bardugo lately? It’s the en vogue thing. You can set your watch to it if you read or watch anything geared towards the youth.
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Okay, you need to chill. It's not that serious. It seems to me that you have more of a problem with gay people than writers changing up the story from the original. Or else, you would have complained about Bash too. But no, this is about you thinking that the youth shouldn't know the existence of gay people, which is ridiculous. Gay people exist, and they deserve to be represented in movies, shows, and books just like everyone else. It's not about pushing an agenda, it's about showing inclusion and diversity, which reflects the reality we're living in.
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Boy, they sure took some "creative license" in this season. Aunt Jo is gay. Her gay lover died last season. Now Cole is gay. Then, the teacher guy (forgot his name) is to marry Prissy. He is a jerk to Cole, in particular. Why? Because he recognizes Cole's secret...why? Because the TEACHER is gay too! Can these writers not come up with anything at all???? How about they be true to the original novel rather than warp a solid classic into just another of today's social justice agendas? That's NOT creativity.
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1) Writers are allowed to make creative changes.
2) Gay people existed in those times, and their stories should be told. Ignoring them is ignoring reality.
3) Social justice agenda? Do you even know what means?
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Being gay does not automatically make you full of "individuality and uniqueness". I'd say the writers were pretty short on creativity with this show
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