MSNBC Ratings Show Big Change Since Trump Inauguration
MSNBC is bouncing back after a brief post-election slump late last year, as the network has seen a ratings boost over the past month since President Donald Trump officially took office.
According to Nielsen ratings, as reported by The Daily Beast, MSNBC has averaged 1.37 million people in its primetime lineup since Trump’s inauguration on January 20. This is an 86 percent increase from the network’s post-election and pre-inauguration numbers.
The network has also posted its best total-day ratings in a while, averaging 711,000 viewers, a 43 percent increase over the late 2024 period.
This comes after news networks across the board took a fall after Trump’s election victory in November, with MSNBC down 47% and CNN down 33% for the month. Even Fox News saw a 9% dip in the week beginning November 20. Meanwhile, in prime time, MSNBC lost 52% of its viewers, while CNN dropped 39%.
The news fatigue was exacerbated after Morning Joe hosts Joe Scarborough and Mike Brzezinski revealed they’d traveled to Mar-a-Lago to meet with President Trump. The Monday, November 20 episode, where the hosts discussed their meeting, brought in 839,000 total viewers and 113,000 viewers in the 25-54 demo, while the Tuesday, November 21 episode dropped to 680,000 total viewers and 76,000 in the key demo.
At the time, an MSNBC source told The Daily Beast they expected a ratings dip after the election and anticipated viewing figures going back up once Trump officially returned to the White House. That prediction has turned out to be correct.
On Monday, February 3, each program in MSNBC’s 4 pm to 10 pm lineup registered more than one million total viewers, per ProgrammingInsider, with Rachel Maddow leading the pack with 2.106 million viewers. Maddow has returned to hosting her show five nights a week for Trump’s first 100 days in office.
Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell followed with 1.521 million viewers, while Inside With Jen Psaki reached 1.044 million viewers.
MSNBC averaged 1.557 million viewers for the night, ahead of CNN with 0.619 viewers but behind Fox News with 3.773 million viewers.
In December, there were reports that MSNBC anchors Joy Reid and Stephanie Ruhle were offered pay cuts to remain at the network. The Ankler newsletter also reported that Jonathan Lemire, who was recently moved to a permanent co-host slot on Morning Joe’s 9 a.m. hour, has been offered a new contract at a reduced salary.
Then, on January 14, MSNBC’s president, Rashida Jones, announced that she was stepping down after four years at the helm of the cable news channel.
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MSNBC let us down! Treating Trump like a normal candidate, picking apart Joe Biden on everything.. I only watch Lawrence and Rachel.. they don’t cater to Trump!
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Have to admit they should have been more supportive of Biden before he dropped out of the race.
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Biden was god awful but for them to support kamala won't watch there station ever again. Trump should of been treated with a heros welcome.
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Yes and they complained about President Biden. Now we getting hell
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Everyone complained about biden he ruined our country
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Biden was horrible they should have i get it ur a lefty amd mad ur precious kamala lost
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Why the hate? Trumpers are mean & nasty. Stop it & grow up. Your in for a rude awakening.
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Go back to truth social
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What did Biden do for you? What questions did he answer for you?
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MSNBC has changed…..in the last week or so they are about FIGHTING BACK! YES👏🏻👏🏻
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I watch everyone accept Joe Scarborough and his Mrs since they went down to kiss the ring.
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I have been a dedicated (news junkie) and fan of MSNBC for many years and I am glad they are not afraid to report the actual truth about the Trump/Musk administration.
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So I take it you voted for kamala and suffer from. T.d.s
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Don’t you mean Musk Derangement Syndrome?
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MSNBC has been my guiding light. They explain the situation, provide insights and give the viewers an understanding of how close we are to losing our country.
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Trustworthy? Not one program not one person anytime in all these days , as DOGE has uncovered tens of billions of dollars in USAID fraud and theft that the Democrats stole. Not a word has been said.
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Now trumps in office America is in good hands. If you're a lefty i know ur gonna hate trump and hate him but 77 million people voted him in to get the democrats out
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A lot of dim bulbs in your guiding light.
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We turned off our TV the morning Joe & Mika announced their ‘visit’. They gave no interview, no news. Just a giant sucking sound. It just so happened that Sling was right in the middle of raising their rates at that very moment. So we cut the cord. We will never watch those two cowards again. Rachel, Nicole and the Weekend crew all do just fine on pod casts and Youtube. As do all the others. Maybe the week end crew could take regular mornings?
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As long as they continue to tell the truth and explain and educate, ill continue to watch!!
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It's not just about telling the truth. Its also about what they cover and what they leave out. The language they use is important too. They are corporate run and have an agenda. Their content is too often propaganda to sway public opinion to their preferred narrative. Their coverage avoidance of the atrocities in Gaza has been shameless. Their coverage was often absent and very biased and disengenuous. Since then I've learned they can not be trusted to offer the news I deserve to hear as an American. I hold them accountable for war crimes. How could Americans object to what we never knew was happening? There must be a lot of Israel money supporting MSNBC. I resent being duped.
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Thank god for Donald trump
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MSNBC has found their fight again.
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I am beyond aggravated. They all claimed to be on the “inside track”. Did they REALLY think Biden was a suitable candidate? I am so mad, why didn’t someone confront him & tell him he was too old. He also prevented Democrats from mounting a viable younger candidate against Trump. Joe Scarborough, Chuck Schumer, cmon guys, you saw the man, you KNEW he was losing it & you DID NOTHINH!
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Their explaining of the ‘only way to save our democracy’ is to vote the way we tell you; was very insightful and gave me a true understanding that MSNBC doesn’t understand what it means to vote in a democracy.
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Perhaps it’s your mistaken assumption that you were being TOLD how to vote. One thing I did notice was the push for registration and getting out the vote.
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I stopped watching Joe and Mika after they tried to justify going to see trump. I will NEVER watch them again but I am watching and wi continue to watch Rachel Maddow.
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they bent over and took it up the 3rd eye for trump.
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😁🧐😖
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Really? This is the only network I've seen where the presenters don't have orange lips from all the Trump a** kissing. Very brave of them.
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Haven't watched them since election. Don't plan to watch them again
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I still don't understand why Legacy Media stays away from topics? ( Looking at you Epstein). I was and am still am, really disappointed with MSNBC. I really thought they would show up before the election with some journalistic integrity. MSNBC like CNN either chickened out or they were never who we thought they were. Either way sucks!
At the end of the day it's about money for them. I get that for sure!
Legacy Media needs to realize that at the end of the day, it's personal for me.
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I've been a viewer of CNN for the past 10 years. There's been a massive change there in the last few weeks and they're soft balling every dramatic twist and turn the Musk/Trump team are launching on the American population. So I went wandering with my remote and at long last I've finally found MSNBC. Now there is some true grit going on. There's action behind the scenes in a big way! Rachel is a warrior and I've just been watching Jen Psaki who speaks gently but is carrying a massive club! I hope MSNBC is not for sale and the helm at the White House can't stop you. As things continue to get worse and worse your ratings are going to climb! You're offering "light at the end of the tunnel" (BIG TIME) action is needed right now. No time to hang around until new senators are elected and the house reverts. Every voice needs to be raised and the public have to know the dangers ahead. Dianne. (Brisbane Australia -passionate about America's well being)
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Which institution did you escape from?
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We stopped watching Morning Joe since they traveled to the felons house. Get my news from MTN Meidas Touch network, Joy, Rachael , Lawrence & Stephanie
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MSNBC tells the real truth about American demise under Trump....
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No more MSNBC for me!
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I didn't know CNN was hurting that bad
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cNN turned Trump.. having all the GQP on and NEVER correcting their lies! As bad as Fox.. I quit them a year ago!! Never again!!
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The Daily Beast??? Hahaha
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As a former Democrat, I bolt back and forth between conservative and left leaning networks and have found MSNBC to be the furthest left and unfortunately there isn’t ANYONE left on MSNBC that doesn’t have TDS. Trump derangement is an absolute real thing and apparently a prerequisite for employment at the network.
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I'm a D but moderate and centrist..I don't agree that MSNBC is far left and I learn a lot about how both sides approach the issues. Fox has only 1 view, far right. CNN is good too, especially Brianna.
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He was not loosing it. It is people like you who made us loose the election. But I do t want to fight with you. We are on the same side. Just difference of opinion . I would have voted for Biden even if he was in dying bed. Even if he was in the morgue. I still believe he would have won, if we stock with him. I love Kamala. But racism is toooooooomuch in America. Even you seem to think she was not the right person. And she was the best after Biden. If not for racism or sexism she would have won. It was not the economy. Anybody who wants to keep their head in the racist sand can go right ahead.
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And FOTUS isn't old and deranged? Republicans came out to vote for that looney tune and democrats stayed home in protest. Let's speak the truth.
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Five plane crashes in 28 days? $10 eggs? Give me a break. Fox Lies still is trying to pump the most hated traitor president, but people are waking up and storming the street. Drain the swamp. Through Musk and Trump in jail.
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That's President Trump to you. President Trump won in a landslide, how does that make him hated?
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Not a landslide! He won by less than the amount Hillary lost by. I believe he won by 1% or less. That is not a mandate.
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These 2 are brain dead vegetables
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I’ve noticed the same thing!
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Joe and Mika are a total disgrace to MSNBC. They will not say one cross word about Trump, they are part of the cult now, I'm shocked and surprised!
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All propaganda! The whole network is so negative. I tried watching. What happened to hope and all the good news. Gotta mix in the good things Doge is doing for the taxpayers.
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Do you know what DOGE is doing?
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You are delusional. Fake news
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Fighting back it’s a sissy slap. They suck.
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I’m sure some republicans voted for USAID programs. A lot of the things Musk has said were uncovered were proven false. .
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Please post the facts to support your claim that published numbers are false.
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Can’t stand Morning Joe. To be fair, I can’t stomach Joe. His ego too much and the show suffers. He should be let an then go to Fox.
Rachel is the best. Never miss a show. Why only the first 100 days?
Weekend is fabulous as Michael Steele is a well spoken, suffer no idiot, co-host-that you love to hear his take on things. Stephaine Ruehle is engaging and great host.
Deadlines: Whitehouse is worth taping if you can’t see her live.
That said, I usually tune out if they beat their point to death.
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MSDNC is a toilet.
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MSNBC is facing a slow death, just put them out of their misery.
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Take off the blinders educate are you kidding me?
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Are you drunk high or on some type of drug?
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Your guiding light is burned out watch a channel that really gives true info not the lying MSNBC
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You are brainwashed.
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Right, because “fighting back” is all you liberals know… which is why you will CONTINUE TO LOSE ELECTIONS.
What are you even fighting back against? I think it’s the only way you people can be happy… all you liberals allow external forces affect you that control your mood, emotions and actions instead of taking agency over yourselves.
All of the junk you’ve been told has been propaganda.. you’re told by Rachel Maddow and the other hacks that you have to be angry because Trump won and you have to “fight” or “resist”, yet when Trump was President before, we had NO WARS, a SECURE BORDER, and 2% inflation….
He now wants to end the war in Ukraine, bring China and Russia to the table to negotiate all three countries reduce their military spending (especially on NUKES), he wants to stop wasteful spending in the government by having a brilliant businessman Elon, who excels in streamlining efficiencies in business, come and find the waste and fraud— of YOURS AND MY TAX DOLLARS.
So again, what exactly are you “fighting” against with Trump?
Are you saying you are defending wasteful spending? Defending building more NUKES? Having more people die in the Ukraine war?
This is why the moderate Democrats have left the party and voted Trump… the Dem party is UNRECOGNIZABLE from the Bill Clinton era. The “woke” junk, the identity politics and pronoun nonsense your party has embraced has driven off all of the normal people and your left with a bunch of activists and left wing radicals…
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I used to record and watch all 3 hours of Morning Joe. But never again after they visited the orange rapist to kiss the ring. Such hypocrites!!!!
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They've never told the truth. Bias activists.
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Another TDS idiot
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Joe Biden is married to DOCTOR JILL she knew he couldn’t do it. She or someone else was making the decision and they were not voted in to run our country. Criminal.
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Musk was not voted in and he is running your country.
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Oh Billy!! Don't be a MAGA hero.
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Yes. Msnbc. Love these guys. I watch from 12pm to 9pm weekdays and weekends Siemon and Michael so funny. Oh I started back Morning Joe as well. Love Rev AL. Johnathan all on Saturdays. PM Sundays. Wonderful journalists. Thanks Msnbc
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I used to be a avid morning.Joe watcher, but after they went and kissed the ring I stopped watching.
I Also love Alex Wagner.They should put Alex Wagner in the morning spot and take away mika in joe I'm a avid watcher of Joy, Chris, Lawrence, Rev Al, Katie. And a lot of other MSNBC lineup But i'm done with mika and joe.
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During Trump's campaign and since election WHY is MSNBC constantly freezing up, scrambled, vocals lost. None of my hundreds of stations have this problem. It's not a provider issue. Seems very odd especially during evening hosts shows🤔 could it be INTENTIONAL??
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I watched MSNBC off and on during day, almost exclusively after 4 pm until 11pm. Since the election that has changed. I refuse to watch Morning Joe after their VISIT. Rachel is my favorite, so happy she is back each night,
Lawrence is so informative, Ari tries to show both sides. Deadline WH has really good guests. We NEED MSNBC now, especially with the second Coup that is being attempted.
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So you like them controlling what they want you to hear! You like being lied too! So your hopeless!
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More folks are tuning in to laugh at their meltdowns.
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MSNBC is about the only trustworthy station - without these wonderful host - the truth is always in question. Lawrence O'Donnell knows his stuff and is calming, Rachel Maddow, Nicole Wallace, Joy, Ari Melber, Stephanie Ruhle has the financial ins and outs, also love Velshi, the Weekend Mornings with Michael Steel the three of them are a joy. It is the one we watch - then movies or series to take a break. Also, PBS and the BBC. Enjoy and trust Jonathan Lemire but since Joe and Mika traveled to Florida to kiss the ring - not interested.
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Trustworthy? Not one program not one person anytime in all these days , as DOGE has uncovered tens of billions of dollars in USAID fraud and theft that the Democrats stole. Not a word has been said.
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Because that's russian disinformation. 🙄
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You believe that?
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The old Russian disinformation bunk. You must be one of those intelligence "experts".
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Leftys are gonna believe you all those its true
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Because it's not true
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Not me, I quit watching them.
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Well, that's based on nothing whatsoever. Jill Biden has publicly stated that America, in pushing Joe out of the race, "Missed an opportunity." He's slowed with age and has non-cognitive issues, true, but he's still as mentally sound as he was 10 years ago. And even if he was at 50% capacity he'd be better than what we have now.
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So have you seen any facts on where or who has stolen tens of billions of dollars. I am yet to see facts showing where the fraud is happening and who is stealing the money, food, medication, doctors, financial help, education that we help these underprivileged, poor, devastating natural disaster country with children, babies, mothers, human beings that needs the help. Have you seen the amount of human beings that are dying around the world because of no food, water, shelter or most important medication. Jesus died for us to breathe the breath of life, not to watch the poor die of starvation. If you are a human beings that was created by God. Think again.
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Hi Sammi. I could not anymore highly agree with you. They are very and I say this with such coveniencing assurance, they are dividing the country with their disgraceful lies most negative self-destructive reporting. A country is built by its people. The government is elected by the people and they work for the people not for billionaire.
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Rachel , Lawrence, Nicole and Ari. I will NOT watch the rest.
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Nobody cares about MSNBC. The only people watching are family, friends, and fellow elites. Goodbye!
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You don't need to do any research, or online fact checking. All you need to do is listen to what the reporters are saying. The stuff that comes out of Fox is so obviously ridiculous, any sane human would see straight through it. Whilst it is impossible to say that everything you hear on MSNBC is accurate and true, it is a hell of a lot more plausible.
The current occupant of the White House and his entourage spew such hatred and tell such ridiculous, obvious lies, only a complete idiot would give it a moments serious consideration. Unfortunately, this country has a hell of a lot of complete idiots.
When the president of, what was once the most powerful nation on earth, is telling you that tariffs are going to be paid by the country sending goods and services to America, it is obvious that he is either delusional or just a plain liar. Nobody who can manage to con enough people to get to where he is can be that delusional and his past outbursts confirm that he is nothing but a pathological liar. He, unfortunately, knows exactly what to say to get an enormous number of stupid people to believe his every word. America is nothing more than the biggest cult on the planet and it will go the way of all cults. It is a real shame. Of course, it will be known by future generations as the great, promising country that had the shortest reign at the top of our civilisation before descending at the fastest rate into oblivion.
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I tire of Rachel's long winded preludes, but the reality is that she has one of the most amazing research crews ever assembled by ANY network show. For that reason, I always learn something new by watching her show. She should be the new anchor for Meet the Press. I told my friends that losing Tim Russert would create a void and was worried about the truth getting to the masses. Rachel could fill this void.
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MSNBC is my favorite news source. I needed a break after the election but now I am back. Rachel is my favorite.
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without Donald Trump they have nothing to offer. In other words it’s a symbiotic relationship. I’ve turned them off and spend the morning reading the news and opinion pieces digested and we’ll thought in the NYT, vanity fair and t the New Yorker.
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That was an unfortunate one-off and I haven't seen or anything since to make me believe otherwise.
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What? Do you have a coherent thought?
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pmsnbc should save time and turn off the lights today
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Please tell Jo to shut up. He will not let anyone especially his wife be able to speak. He needs to go!
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I am heartbroken over MSNBC's dismissals as I watch this network more than every other one combined. Especially can't understand losing a unique talent like Joy Reid.
(BTW: Lawrence is my personal #1.)
Many in our nation say that trump has a mandate from the voters of the last election.
But how many of those 77 million voters regret voting for him and how many more are going to regret their trump AND Republican votes within the next couple of months when the trump/musk crap really hits the fan?!?
Trump is destroying every single American institution in record time. It's as if Putin has sent his army into the United States and is conquering America city by city. It will take decades to fix trump's damage to our once great nation...
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Easily the two best personalities on MSNBC are Nicolle Wallace who breaks the news down like a therapist, and Stephaie Ruhle who is brilliant and just wonderful. Why isn't Stephaie on at 8Pm?
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Sorry but the last word that comes to mind in a discussion on the MSNBC lineup is joy. Not talkin bout Joy Reid here. Depression, anger, denial..its like going through the 5 stages of grief. 24 HOURS A DAY, 7 days a week! That stress is not good for your physical health. A little anger can be cathartic, as a perpetual state of mind it will kill you.
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Sorry it's is only fake news unfortunately 😔
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They only tell you what you wanna hear. Not so much of the truth or facts. And we are so close to losing our country because of the last administration. But they won't tell you that.
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You’re the one
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This will probably be canceled, goodbye liberal media you liars. You lie to advance your agenda. Enough is enough. America has spoken. You are done here
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They should
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Surlely you jest
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You need new glasses and hearing interpetation devices 🤣
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The only reason ratings have bounced back is the right are watching these lefties lose it each day.
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They don't tank Harris, and most polls had hff or winning so your frustration w/MSNBC is unwarranted unless you are a sheep flipping to FOX because Trump won?
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Hahahahaha nope it's one of the propaganda stations .People it's real easy to look at all news media then choose what you believe like a real American.
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Look let's be honest, BIDEN screwed the country by changing his mind about running again, if he stuck to the one and done as promised we would not have Trump.
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I love MSNBC. I used to watch CNN all the time until they tried to move to the center and brought obnoxious right wing people like Scott Jennings on board to bash Biden and do his Trumpy live thing. It is disgusting. I now watch MSNBC most of the time. I wake up with Morning Joe, love Nicole Wallace, Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and especially Rachael Maddow. You all rock!!!
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This increase is mostly due to Trump supporters trolling the left. Just read the comment section and it is full of Republicans 😆
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Put Hannity or other special coverage in Fox Business.
Gutfeld forever!
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All propaganda
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Msnbc is a joke just like cnn
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MSNBC will end up failing. Because of the far left ideals that they seem to refuse to drop will be it's demise. The country has shifted right but MSNBC hasn't so I say bye bye MSNBC
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Why is it a “dumpster fire “?
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Yes, trustworthy indeed. That's why for 4 years they pushed the narrative that Sleepy Joe was top notch , sharp as a pin......LOL.
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These are trash numbers? Fox News has 3.4 to 4.7 Millions viewers. No sane person is listening to the trash from MSNBC or CNN anymore.
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Too bad you are the only one. Bub bye
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Same
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I think, that America has seen through the lies. I am neutral but I have looked at over 100 times where liberal media was downright lying because of their personal beliefs. Keep changing their story. What they're doing and what they did was downright criminal. They are not for America. They are for their jobs. Goodbye liberal media hosts. I am so glad that America woke up. Joy Bear bye-bye
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I think anyone that watches fake liberal crap is mentally insane
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I vote for Peter Alexander. He’s a great reporter, and has gravitas.
(He’s also not bad to look at).
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Because they can’t pay their bills
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Nonsense. It’s COMCAST. BUT WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES OVER THE PAST 8-9 months. HORRIBLE SOUND. FREEZING. IT’s as if all the broadcast and cable providers had Musk fire their sound people. If course, commercials are at damaging volumes.
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their station.
Should have been treated (it’s actually greeted)..
Don’t make MAGA sound dumb!
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But MAGA IS DUMB!! You can’t fake it!!
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Once again turned on Morning Joe this morning, and Joe & Mika aren't on again! They are the only reason I watch, if it continues I won't be watching anymore!
Your making to many changes.
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MSDNC & CNN should take their shows on the road. Its very comical to watch.
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Watching President Musk destroying our country doesn't get a chuckle out of me.
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I agree. I was sad to see Joy leave, with no reason, warning, or fanfare. Then we heard that Lester Holt was leaving, clearly pressured to leave, and Katie Tur was let go, making the purge look blatantly racial.
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She is a over paid crybaby.
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You need help. They are the radicals of the DNC and hate America
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The channel sucks and so do the left
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Be nice and clean up your grammer. You are judged by proper english coming out of your mouth...not insults!
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Grammar.
You're welcome. 💯
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I'm open to facts anywhere but to call MSNBC trustworthy just shows your compass of truth and lies and misleading are all messed up. Just the facts left out of just about every show on MSNBC should be concerning to everyone. Let alone the chosen topics to speak about and spin with lies and personal bias.
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All the viewers of MSNBC are brainwashed. Just give up on them, they are to far gone.
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Where Rachel Maddow lies about Musk she said Trump gave him a 40 million contract for tesla,that was Biden not Trump. MSNBC lie,lie lie
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Actually what Biden offered was less money.
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I know. I prefer my brain dead ex president
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I don't know why anybody's praising them. COMCAST that owns NBC, said MSNBC is getting sold off. And they are shuttering the office in New York. MSNBC won't even be called that anymore it will have no affiliation with NBC, the president said, they are gone. Their ratings are absolutely horrible. They have been even when Biden was in office, NBC has said no mas.
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MSNBC is a failed and declining Fake News outlet. No one watches them, or believes any of their lies. They will be nothing but a footnote in history as an example of what failed journalisms do to all the known lies they perpetrated on purpose to try and convince the public of information that is completely false.
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Tell us what cable news network that isn’t a “Fake News outlet”?
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I think it's because we love watching liberals heads blowing up.
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I can’t wait to see your head explode when things start going south for the republicans 😊
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Yep, with verifiable facts as opposed to 'your truth'.
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MSNBC is slowly melting. No one is watching this FAKE NEWS station anymore. SAD !!!
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Honey you are obviously addicted to anxiety porn. That much stimulus to your amygdala is not good for your health. I would advise you to just cut back to the rachel's mad now show and then go touch grass and contemplate how someone who adds $25 million to her net worth every year, working a part time job, can be so angry and miserable ALL THE TIME.
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They are the biggest bunch of liars and idiots on television today by far.Joy Reid is the biggest racist on television and they are all miserable people that nobody trusts.MSNBC is a clown show led by the head clown Rachel Maddow, the conspiracy theory and paranoia expert..Shes delusional.This network needs to be gutted..
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Ya ok Delusional, like normal l o, l, that's why we voted
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TDS at its best
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MSNBC is straight propaganda and fear mongering. Literally the worst "news" source
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Yes, We were very close to losing our country. Good thing Trump won and will put us back on the right track!
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Delusional, but accurate that there are plenty of you people that still believe MSNBC, CNN, etc. tell the truth. But you wouldn’t know that if you only watch those “news” outlets.
Fox is much more trustworthy, although I’m not a fan of their “cheerleading” for Republicans (even though I’m a staunch conservative)….
There is evidence that MSNBC heavily edited videos of Trump to make him seem like what they were calling him… racist, etc… they basically LIED to their audience (maybe because they know a lot of you “believers” won’t bother to fact check the claims or watch/read/consider anything or anyone that has a different view— even when those claims against Trump are found to be false — by VIDEO EVIDENCE.
This is why MSNBC & CNN such low numbers…they have lost ALL CREDIBILITY except for the faithful like you apparently
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As a republican I'm watching for the entertainment of the liberal meltdown
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Liberals watch Fox News for the lunacy and lies.
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Well I’ll be gladly watching your breakdown when Trumpty dumpty falls down and can’t get up again
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