Why Rob Thomas’ ‘iZombie’ Ended Happily and ‘Veronica Mars’ Didn’t

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[Warning: The below contains MAJOR spoilers for the series finale of iZombie, “All’s Well That Ends Well,” and Season 4 of Veronica Mars.]

And they all lived happily ever after — for the most part. (Sorry, Blaine and Don E.)

The fact that Liv (Rose McIver), Major (Robert Buckley), Peyton (Aly Michalka), Ravi (Rahul Kohli), and Clive (Malcolm Goodwin) were all alive (relatively speaking) and happy at the end of the iZombie series finale might have surprised some fans especially after watching the Veronica Mars revival on Hulu.

But the creator of both series knew that he could give his CW characters those endings because of the genre. “I’ve always known that, hey, I’m not doing a noir show for once,” Rob Thomas told Entertainment Weekly.

By the end of iZombie, Ravi had been able to make a cure, which led to the end of the war. Those who chose to remain zombies were able to live their lives in the rebranded Seattle — including Liv and Major, married with zombie orphans, though the world thinks Liv is dead.

Ten years after that battle in Seattle, Clive and Dale (Jessica Harmon) were still married and in law enforcement, operating as co-captains in San Francisco, and were raising their kids (including Michelle’s son). Peyton and Ravi were married, with Peyton a district attorney in Atlanta and Ravi the Head of the CDC.

And as Liv playfully offered when she and Major caught up with their friends after a virtualcast, they could always join them on Zombie Island. “All it takes is a scratch,” she said.

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But the end of the fourth season of Veronica Mars didn’t have the same tone. Though its main couple, Veronica (Kristen Bell) and Logan (Jason Dohring), also got married, the groom was killed soon after.

“With Veronica Mars, because I imagined that show was going to go on and we were going to continue to do more mysteries, I wasn’t building that as the grand ending of the series, whereas I was on iZombie,” Thomas explained. Though he had thought the Veronica Mars universe could have ended with the movie (which was why he gave it “a reasonably happy ending”), that’s not the case anymore.

“It’s only now that I’m starting to believe I’m going to get the opportunity to do a bunch more [seasons of Veronica Mars] that that happy ending didn’t work for me moving forward,” he added.

That does mean there probably won’t be an iZombie spinoff or revival down the road. “I don’t think it’s going to happen,” Thomas admitted, though he’d “be game to work with [the actors] any time, anywhere,” whether that’s on a future iteration of the dramedy or another project.

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Fingers crossed some will show up on future Veronica Mars episodes?!

iZombie, Season 5, August 9, Netflix




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    GreenCupcake

    So...do you still think there are going to be more episodes of Veronica Mars? Because I've kind of got the impression that Rob's fiasco of a finale there didn't just kill me, it killed the entire fridge-ing series. But I still think there's still a way out, like it was maybe Freudian that my demolition was off screen and the word "death" was never spoken. I'm not suggesting a coma. God no. But I am a Naval Intelligence Officer, after all, and it wouldn't be completely implausible for my death to have been faked. Too cruel, you say? Nay, so so much crueler to blow my beautiful bod into a billion bits, never to be put back together again. Rob. Kristen. Hulu? Hear me out. Seriously. If you write me back in it will be incredible. There will be such bolt of lightning from the sky, the whole world won't be able to not watch. Come on, do it, guys? What do you really have to lose? I know you don't want to, but do you really want to see your amazing baby go down the drain? Please don't let it all end this way. Change your mind. Come around. Look Veronica in the eyes and ask her, what is best for Veronica Mars? What really is the next best thing, Kristin? I know you are dying to fix, Diane. We've gotten to know each other and I know you never wanted me dead. Time is of the essence. You need to act soon. Fix it. Don't let the entire series die. Bring me back alive for a Season 5. It's the only way for Veronica Mars to survive. Pretty please with a cherry on top? It'll be epic.

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    PurpleCocktail

    Well, I wouldn’t know because After Rob Thomas decided to intentionally destroy season 4 of Veronica Mars, I decided to boycott every show he decides to make. He sucks as a writer.

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    GreenCupcake

    So...do you still think there are going to be more episodes of Veronica Mars? Because I've kind of got the impression that Rob's fiasco of a finale there didn't just kill me, it killed the entire fridge-ing series. But I think there's still a way out, like it was maybe Freudian that my demolition was off screen and the word "death" was never spoken. I'm not suggesting a coma. God no. But I am a Naval Intelligence Officer, after all, and it wouldn't be completely implausible for my death to have been faked. Too cruel, you say? Nay, so so much crueler to blow my beautiful bod into a billion bits, never to be put back together again. Rob. Kristen. Hulu? Hear me out. Seriously. If you write me back in it will be incredible. There will be such bolt of lightning from the sky, the whole world won't be able to not watch. Come on, guys? What do you really have to lose? I know you don't want to, but do you really want to see your amazing baby go down the drain? Please don't let it all end this way. Change your mind. Come around. Look Veronica in the eyes and ask her what is best for her? What do you really feel is the next best thing to do for Veronica Mars, Kristin? I know you're dying to fix it, Diane. We've gotten to know each other and I know you never wanted me dead. Time is of the essence. You need to act soon. Don't let the entire series die. Bring me back alive for a Season 5. It's the only way for Veronica Mars to survive. Pretty please with a cherry on top? It'll be epic.