Ask Matt: ‘1883’ and Its Controversial Heroine
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Would 1883 Be Better Off Without Elsa?
Comment: [Spoiler Alert Regarding Recent Storylines]: I just have to say this! I have never written an opinion before, but I just don’t like 1883! I am sooooo disappointed in the storyline! I thought it would be about “all” of the people making the trip and the ups and downs that they would have to endure! This story is only about a teenage daughter hungry to go to bed with any single guy that shows up! She narrates the entire hour and I can hardly understand what she is talking about! Every hour is mostly about her and her talking! I feel there is no depth to the storyline! I can’t believe they are talking about a Season 2! — Nancy
Matt Roush: For the record, I took out a few of Nancy’s exclamation points (an editor’s prerogative) because it felt like she was expressing her feelings passionately enough without them. And while in this forum everyone is entitled to their opinion (within reason: we attempt to keep politics and bigotry out of the column), I’m going to push back on most of Nancy’s. Isabel May has deservedly become a breakout star as Elsa, and while some of her narration has been a bit too flowery even for my tastes, to reduce her journey to slut-shaming her over the two men she has fallen for along the way is to ignore the premise of 1883: that Elsa is experiencing a freedom beyond the bounds of 19th-century civilization with all of the pitfalls that entails: emotional and physical and, yes, sexual.
Series creator Taylor Sheridan has said that he wasn’t able to figure out the hook for Yellowstone’s and the Duttons’ origin story until he came up with the idea to tell it from Elsa’s perspective, which is something relatively new for the well-worn and currently underrepresented Western genre. This doesn’t mean other lead characters — most notably the great Sam Elliott as wagon-train leader Shea Bennett — have been slighted. To me, 1883 is one of the best TV Westerns since Lonesome Dove and certainly one of the more fatalistic. To that end, I and many others are quite curious how Sunday’s finale (Feb. 27) will play out, with intimations that Elsa may not even survive being shot with the arrow, an event that was foreshadowed in the premiere. (Does this mean 1883 has been narrated from an omniscient afterlife? Hope not.)
As if to underscore the point, just as I was getting ready to sign off on this column, I received this in my mailbag from Curt S: “Killing off Elsa in 1883 is down there with killing off Dani in Game of Thrones. Elsa is the main reason that many of us watched the show. I think I’m done. Is that a death knell that I hear?”
I guess we’ll find out on Sunday.
Is the black-ish Farewell Unbalanced by Celebrity Guests?
Question: Why is black-ish so obsessed with celebrity guest stars in its final season? Dre and Rainbow are obviously well-off and they live comfortably, but the last time I checked, they are not celebrities in the universe of the show. So it strains credibility when all of a sudden a parade of famous real-life celebs playing themselves want to pay them a visit. First it was Michelle Obama in the premiere, then there was the episode where Jack got a job working for the Lakers, and this week (Feb. 22) Charlie got married to Vivica A. Fox. A press release from ABC back in January name-dropped them and a bunch of other celebrity guest stars. I understand that these people are probably fans of the show in real life and that ABC wants to make the final season feel like an event. But it isn’t working for me.
It’s not just the parade of guest stars. It’s that the show works best for me when it is about the dynamics within the Johnson family. I don’t mean to slight any of these famous people, but their presence often seems to land the focus on them and less so on the characters we’ve actually been watching all these years. This week’s episode started with the shock that Charlie was marrying Vivica A. Fox but ended up trying to focus on Dre and Charlie’s friendship. So why did the woman Charlie was marrying have to be Vivica A. Fox? The same basic story about Dre’s friendship with him could have been accomplished no matter who the bride was. It didn’t seem to serve any purpose for it to be Vivica A. Fox other than for Charlie’s colleagues to be surprised that she would be interested in him. I didn’t come back to black-ish this season after drifting away to see the Johnsons hobnob with celebrities. I came back to black-ish in order to (hopefully) see the story of the Johnson family come to an emotionally resonant conclusion. I haven’t seen that happening yet. Your thoughts? – Jake
Matt Roush: Not going to argue this one. An occasional celebrity encounter makes sense given the Johnson family’s status in a status-conscious town, but I agree they’ve gone overboard in trying to “event”-ize the final season. Watching the rest of the family embarrass themselves as they tried to muscle in on Michelle Obama’s unlikely home visit in the premiere — and why wouldn’t Dre and Bow introduce her proudly to their family? — was almost enough to turn me off of the season as a whole. On the other hand, how good is its lead-in, Abbott Elementary? (Can’t plug that one often enough.)
Breaking a Promise
Question: I started to watch Promised Land and I love it, so now ABC is putting it on Hulu! I don’t have Hulu. Why would they get you to like a show and then put it on a pay platform? Not happy about this. — Charlene S
Matt Roush: Put the streaming issue aside for a moment and come to grips that for all intents and purposes, Promised Land has been canceled for low ratings. In another time (even just a few years ago), it would have vanished without a trace. Instead, ABC is shifting the remainder of the first (and only) season to its streaming platform, and while it would be nice for ABC to also make the episodes available On Demand and/or online for non-subscribers, I’m not aware that’s happening. For many, this provides an option to watch the episodes that would otherwise not be available at all. Not a great outcome, I agree, but cancellations are never fun.
To Eliminate or Not to Eliminate
Question: Is it just me, or do others find it very annoying on The Amazing Race when the last team arrives only to be told it’s “a non-elimination round?” Many times you get an annoying team come in last and you’re happy to see them go, only to find out they stay, and then the following week you have a favorite team and hope they’ll be saved, only to see them get eliminated. Who makes up this stupid rule on when to use the non-elimination and when not to? Every week I swear it will be my last. — Lori
Matt Roush: Lori, it’s almost never just you. This gimmick of The Amazing Race is arguably its least popular, but by all accounts, the timing and frequency of the non-elimination legs are pre-determined by the producers before the season begins. I’d like to think this show has enough integrity that it wouldn’t contrive to keep an outrageous team in the game longer by mixing up the legs just to make more noise. But I’ve had much the same feeling when these arbitrary legs work against the players I’m rooting for. For better or worse, that’s how the show works.
Comment: It’s hard to believe that Hollywood hasn’t grabbed up Adam Pålsson (of Netflix’s Young Wallander). He is absolutely amazing. — Sandra, Massachusetts
Matt Roush: Give Hollywood time. The Swedish actor’s breakout role in this series arrived during the pandemic—the first season dropped in September 2020, the second just this month—and he also can be seen among the supporting ensemble cast on the bridge crew in HBO’s sci-fi space comedy Avenue 5, which was renewed for a second season. I’d expect we’ll be seeing more of him.
And Finally …
Question: I was wondering if you have heard anything about a show named The Never Game from the book of the same name from Jeffery Deaver that was supposed to be out midseason on CBS? — Natalie C
Matt Roush: You’ll need to be a bit more patient. This project about so-called “reward seeker” Colter Shaw has a pilot production commitment at CBS and is intended as a star vehicle for Justin Hartley, who’s currently still busy with NBC’s This Is Us in its final season. This is designed to be his next TV series, and the goal is for The Never Game to be part of CBS’ 2022-23 season if the network gives the series a green light. Given Hartley’s high profile (and Deaver’s), I imagine it has a good shot at going forward.
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I’ve enjoyed watching 1883 and look forward to Sunday. I like how we’ve gotten glimpses of the characters past to help understand their lives now. Elsa has helped me see this life they are struggling to have from a different perspective and I’m hooked.
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I love 1883 but Elsa gets on my nerves too. I understand that she is a free spirit and has been given free reign by her Daddy to pretty much do whatever she wants including disrespecting the heck out of her mom. I thought that the whole storyline about her and Ennis was great until the writer had her go into a major meltdown when he was killed. How long did she even know Ennis? They had sex one time! How could this girl go through such a dramatic, depressing, what's the point of living mindset so quickly? Then after talking to Shea she snaps right out of it and immediately starts flirting with the new guy. This girl is hot to trot! I could go on but I think that I've gotten my point across.
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I could not continue watching 1883. As much as I wanted to like the show, just the fact they have an 1883 teenage girl behaving like it is 2022 is unbelievable! How about more authentic behavior and dialogue.
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I Love 1883 & Yellowstone
Please don’t get rid of Elsa. That would be like getting rid of John Dutton on Yellowstone.
Elsa is the John Dutton of 1883. Why would you write her out of the series.
Geesh, let it play out and keep her.
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Interesting that Yellowstone has a prequel show set about 100+ years ago, featuring a young woman travelling westward. About the same time, another show announces a prequel set about 100+ years ago, featuring a young woman travelling across country.
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She sets the stage for Kate Dutton who is just like her.
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If 1883 kills Elsa, I am not watching anymore. I love Yellowstone, but would hate to see the main Characters eliminated. Feel the same with 1883.
Sure hope she makes it.
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Problems with 1883 (and yes, I know it’s fiction, but reality based):
- when they got to Doan’s at the Red River, the water was flowing WEST. Also, the river depicted was much too narrow and deep.
- Elsa’s “romance” with a Comanche warrior would have been a violent rape scene. And the Comanche warrior would not have spoken perfect English and without an accent.
- Comanche warriors didn’t use saddles.
- Comanches would have killed all the men and young children, then raped and kidnapped the adult women. The trading scene was stupid.
This show is a very poor representation of the history it supposedly portrays. Taylor Sheridan should be ashamed.
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If you would sit down and actually watch the show you might learn something.
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I agree with Nancy on 1883. The focus is entirely too much on Elsa. It feels like she's living a man's fantasy. For her freedom to be so anchored to her love life feels a bit regressive. Besides, if the story is about the Duttons, I would have expected to hear more the parents' voice in the narrative. Maybe Taylor should have collaborated with other writers on this. And her voiceovers are annoying as heck. She also looks way too much like the unlikable JLaw.
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Would be less skeptical if they announced at the outset which legs will be non-elimination rounds on the fantastic Amazing Race. That guy is such a smart-ass. I was so glad to see hi go...ooops.
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I am convinced all the elimination legs are decided in advance. The production is so carefully planned, and all the challenges intricately produced, that they have to know each leg how many contestants are going to be doing the challenges, reserving plane tickets, etc. They also don't want to have so many contestants that they can afford to eliminate a team every week, because it would be difficult to cover that many contestants in only a 43 minute show.
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Well, you notice that Phil mentions that the last team will be eliminated at the end of the first Pit Stop. For the end of the others after that, it's "may be eliminated".
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Re: Blackish. I stopped watching this show when I realized that thefather, Dre, is a child abuser. Not physically, but emotionally. His target is his son. He seems to be so threatened by his son becoming a fully formed and independant human being that he will do anything to demean, belittle and sabotage his selF worth and esteem. The final straw for me was when Dre walked by the boy and, with no reason or. rational purpose, knocked a plate of food out of his hands. How is this funny? Answer--it's not.
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@Charlene S
I also love Promised Land. But lucky for me my cell phone provider Verizon offers Hulu , Disney + and ESPN + at no extra charge.
My mom is a Promised Land fan too and uses her grandson’s Hulu password . She also has Netflix and Prime the same way . Sharing passwords is legal . Ask a close family member or friend if they have Hulu . You will love it! I hope you get to watch the remaining 5 episodes . Such an underrated drama!
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technically... sharing accounts outside of a family is not legal... but streamers know it's done and have done some things like Netflix has done to limit user counts... but despite all of this sharing... streamers do OK... Oh.. and Promised Land was pretty bad which is why I gave up on it after 1 episode and I'm usually a sucker for that type of show...
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It’s not illegal to share passwords. You won’t get fined, sued or goto jail for doing it. But it is against their terms of service which means you can have your account banned.
But there is no law in the US that says you can’t share your password with anyone you want.
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